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Randy in the Burgh
Posted on 13 Jun 2004 at 04:57

Hey, SRB,

I agree with just about all that you say, although since I was until recently one of those liberals, I try to keep my comments more on the topic and less on any assumptions I might have about others posting on this site. However, I will make an exception here, for I agree fully with your statement...

"I think what we really know about Iraqi schools, water and electric systems and so forth is not broadcast on CNN, MSNBC and the like. They don't want us to know the actual truth. They are out there to get rid of Bush at any costs, even by lying directly to Americans. And sadly many "koolaid drinkers" believe all this crap. "

Though I am a democrat, I will be voting for Bush because he sees the same real values that our former President, Ronald Reagan saw (God, Family and love of country) and I feel as if we as a nation are entering into a period where it will be those who see God as the source of truth and morals versus those who think that we don't need a God and that Humans can redefine morality. That's what it is coming down to and though many don't see it yet, there are major clues all around us (voyeur TV shows, redefining marriage (talk about opening pandora's box), taking any mention of God out of our courthouses and schools, and the idea that we don't have to worry about killing unborn children as if the birthing part is what gave them their unique DNA...oh yes, and lets not forget "no-fault divorce (an oxymoron among real christians)). And so we look at the two candidates for our future President. One is a man of God who gets on his knees every morning (to ask for guidance) and has his staff do the same and has the courage and conviction to bring the Lord up in just about every speach he gives. He is the one who took the fight from over here to over there when the UN wouldn't back up the very mandate they set out in the first place. The other one is the human waffle...trying to define his position, saying he is against gay marriage but then saying he also knows there are parts of the bible that say that gay marriage is OK (not sure what bible he is referring to), and how he was against Iraq but now he feels Bush is not doing enough over there...and on and on he goes, redefining his position again and again. Somehow, though I too demonstrated against Vietnam, I never felt like trashing my country. So I can't see how voting for someone who trashes the highest military medals one could recieve (and then lying about whether he did that to the medal or the ribbon)...I can't see myself now voting for him to run our country. Sorry to give such a political view of Kerry but he has me scared because I fear the Lord's retribution more than anything else and we are headed away from the Lord and I don't see Kerry having a clue as to that having any relevance. And I KNOW Iraq is not another Vietnam. The former war was something we got sucked into by the vacuum the French left. This one was the real deal and there was an evil man to be dealt with. For those who think that God is not one to weigh in on Wars, you should get a copy of "A Table in the Presence" by Lt Carey H. Cash, Chaplain for the Marines First Division, Fifth regiment (wpublishinggroup.com , 2004) and read the part about the April 10th, 2003 battle and the aftermath and you be the judge. Straight out of the Old Testament...God did weigh in on that one.

But as those who do run this website do admonish us from time to time, we do digress from the real issue. May God continue to Bless the US (no guarantee at this stage), May he watch over the innocent ones in Afghanistan and Iraq and may he watch over and help our brave soldiers over there to protect this new fledgling government that is trying to spread it's wings for the first time. And may he continue to watch over and Bless this program, for those Iraqi children are the future for both that country and ours. Prayers do help (again, read Cash's book), so all that read this and agree with this website, please drop and give the Lord a few moments of your time on this program. I know from listening to Christian Radio, that he is listening about Iraq.

Randy in the Burgh


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Neal
Posted on 15 Jun 2004 at 14:18

Damon Borrelli and at least one supporter think we need an effort called Operation American Children. We already have one, it costs billions each year and goes by the name of Waste. Howee 88 hit it on the head (below).


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Damon Borrelli
Posted on 26 Jun 2004 at 22:26

Neal,
Two things: 1) I hope you are not referring to the education of americans as a waste of money. And 2) I do agree (in theory), with Howie 88's post as well. Out of all the post's from the many religious fanatics on this site, he has made the most sense in just a few short lines. I commend you Howie 88, you are a very wise person.


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Randy in the Burgh
Posted on 27 Jun 2004 at 05:54

Damon,

No doubt I am one of the religious fanatics that you are referring to. I do believe in God and Country and that used to mean something to the vast majority in this country. Now it gets a lot of lip service and the ones who do daily include God in their lives number fewer and fewer. I think that is pretty tragic.

Fanatics to me are people who just are so into one thing that all else is driven out. I have a cool job ( I am a marine biologist), a family, friends and hopes for the future for my kids. My wife and I just got through with a New England trip to look at colleges for my daughter. My son just got back from summer camp with the boy scouts.

I am a democrat but I will be voting for Bush because he is not constantly changing his position on things and he is the commander in chief in this new war. When my father was a young man the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor and FDR was President and he wore a button saying "remember pearl harbor" at the next election and there was no doubt in people's minds who to vote for. And the bad guys were the types that were really bad. And plenty of people "found God" as they struggled through that.

Well, I found God after 9/11. Sorry if you think that makes me a fanatic. Sorry if you think anyone who says "God Bless this program" is a religious fanatic. Sorry we as a nation have come to this. Maybe you should get a bumper sticker that says "God Blessed America". I have just about completed reading the bible (both the King James and ths Saint James versions)...will read it again once I am done, for it is so full of what is real truth (not the stuff posted by one who uses the handle "truth") versus what is lies and what this conflict is all about over there that I can't understand why more don't want to understand that. Here is a quick version of what the old testament is full of. Israel worships the Lord and all is well. But every time they have a new king who doesn't worship the Lord, all hell breaks out and they get smacked upside the head real good. And the ones doing the smacking are usually the neighboring Arab peoples (relatives from back in Abraham's days).

Ever wonder why the terrorists keep saying "God willing..."? Ever wonder why that history all came about and what the animosity is all about? We are now being forced into having to deal with it, for they came over to punish us. Know why? Wonder if God had anything to do with it? Wonder who knows what will occur next? Who is always present, from the beginning of time till the end? Why, it is the guy who said "I am". He is and I know this for a fact. You can doubt all you want to but in the end we will all face our maker (the one who will still be saying "I am"). Most in this country still believe in God but most don't have a clue as to what he wants us to do. Well, it's all in the bible. Simple as that. If we all read it, divorce would be an oxymoron. It is as pertinent today as it was way back then. And it is a fact that there is a real thirst for that bible in Iraq right now. Maybe once many have read it and when some of them say "God willing..." it won't be that he helps them try and kill us. Again...read "a Table in the Presence" by Carey H. Cash for an example of a bonafide miracle in Iraq on April 10th, 2003. Which side did God weigh in on? Fanatic? No, just obedient. May the Lord shed some discernment down into your life, Damon, for he is real. And soverign over all.

Randy


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tbigs
Posted on 01 Jul 2004 at 19:49

As I read all of these postings I am reminded of the fact that in the year 2000 President Bush ran as the "Great Uniter". But in my 72 years of walking this earth I have never witnessed a more polarizing administration or era in politics as this. And the comments on the website are a perfect example. Do we get postings on organizations doing similar work or ways to help other children in need? (Like the majority of Africa) No! That's all we get is partisan bickering back and forth about George Bush's religious beliefs and John Kerry's supposed flip flopping.

If you have such blind devotion to a certain political party that you would fill up this well intended site with partisan garbage - then I suggest you take a step back and reevaluate yourself and the leader you support. Then, when your done with that, maybe you'll take a look around this small planet we share and notice the children in need... Be it Iraq, Sudan, Latin America or AMERICA!!

Sorry for the "senior citizen" scolding... But I felt it was do!

Best regards,
TBiggs


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Randy in the Burgh
Posted on 02 Jul 2004 at 04:41

TBiggs,

Sorry if I for one did get sidetracked and ramble on there on politics and not keep it short and sweet. Politics are about the grown ups argueing away, and you are right that that could go on forever. I apologize for being too lengthy.

I agree with you that the children should stay the focus. And I for one do support organizations that do aid children in various parts of the world (Salesian Missions, St Jude Hospital, the Heifer Project, Habitat for Humanity and now this program). These organizations do cover the parts of the world you mentioned and more. I also think people should check out another group doing service for Iraqi people and that would be SpiritofAmerica.net. They help both children and adults in both Afghanistan and Iraq and one of their big drives now is to get sewing machines over there into Iraq.

I think that one reason why so many are pitching in to help OIC is that when our forces are involved with battles over seas, we tend to be generous to a fault to the nations involved. And as Iraq's population of 18 million are comprised of nearly 1/2 in the 18 year old or younger catagory, their children do indeed need help. Enough said.

Randy


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tbiggs
Posted on 02 Jul 2004 at 14:28

Randy,

You're right on! Let's keep focus on the kids in need. Thanks also for the SpiritofAmerica.net. link.

Best regards,
tbiggs


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Kerry4President2004
Posted on 02 Jul 2004 at 17:29

Originally posted by: Randy in the Burgh

"I am a democrat but I will be voting for Bush because he is not constantly changing his position on things and he is the commander in chief in this new war."

Democrat my arse, lol. You mean like how Zell Miller is a Democrat? Give me a break.
You are completely clueless if you thing Bush hasn't changed his positions on various issues, they don't call him the "flip-flopper in-chief" for nothing.

From the beginning, George W. Bush has made his own credibility a central issue. On 10/11/00, then Governor Bush said: "I think credibility is important. It is going to be important for the president to be credible with Congress, important for the president to be credible with foreign nations." But President Bush's serial flip-flopping raises serious questions about whether Congress and foreign leaders can rely on what he says.

1. OPEC



BUSH PROMISES TO FORCE OPEC TO LOWER PRICES..."What I think the president ought to do [when gas prices spike] is he ought to get on the phone with the OPEC cartel and say we expect you to open your spigots...And the president of the United States must jawbone OPEC members to lower the price." [President Bush, 1/26/00]



...BUSH REFUSES TO LOBBY OPEC LEADERS With gas prices soaring in the United States at the beginning of 2004, the Miami Herald reported the president refused to "personally lobby oil cartel leaders to change their minds." [Miami Herald, 4/1/04]



2. Iraq Funding



BUSH SPOKESMAN DENIES NEED FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR THE REST OF 2004..."We do not anticipate requesting supplemental funding for '04" [White House Budget Director Joshua Bolton, 2/2/04]



…BUSH REQUESTS ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR IRAQ FOR 2004 “I am requesting that Congress establish a $25 billion contingency reserve fund for the coming fiscal year to meet all commitments to our troops.” [President Bush, Statement by President, 5/5/04]



3. Condoleeza Rice Testimony



BUSH SPOKESMAN SAYS RICE WON'T TESTIFY AS 'A MATTER OF PRINCIPLE'...“Again, this is not her personal preference; this goes back to a matter of principle. There is a separation of powers issue involved here. Historically, White House staffers do not testify before legislative bodies. So it's a matter of principle, not a matter of preference.” [White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan, 3/9/04]



…BUSH ORDERS RICE TO TESTIFY: “Today I have informed the Commission on Terrorist Attacks Against the United States that my National Security Advisor, Dr. Condoleezza Rice, will provide public testimony.” [President Bush, 3/30/04]



4. Science



BUSH PLEDGES TO ISSUE REGULATIONS BASED ON SCIENCE..."I think we ought to have high standards set by agencies that rely upon science, not by what may feel good or what sounds good." [then-Governor George W. Bush, 1/15/00]



...BUSH ADMINISTRATION REGULATIONS IGNORE SCIENCE "60 leading scientists—including Nobel laureates, leading medical experts, former federal agency directors and university chairs and presidents—issued a statement calling for regulatory and legislative action to restore scientific integrity to federal policymaking. According to the scientists, the Bush administration has, among other abuses, suppressed and distorted scientific analysis from federal agencies, and taken actions that have undermined the quality of scientific advisory panels." [Union of Concerned Scientists, 2/18/04]



5. Ahmed Chalabi



BUSH INVITES CHALABI TO STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS...President Bush also met with Chalabi during his brief trip to Iraq last Thanksgiving [White House Documents 1/20/04, 11/27/03]



...BUSH MILITARY ASSISTS IN RAID OF CHALABI'S HOUSE"U.S. soldiers raided the home of America's one-time ally Ahmad Chalabi on Thursday and seized documents and computers." [Washington Post, 5/20/04]

6. Department of Homeland Security

BUSH OPPOSES THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY..."So, creating a Cabinet office doesn't solve the problem. You still will have agencies within the federal government that have to be coordinated. So the answer is that creating a Cabinet post doesn't solve anything." [White House spokesman Ari Fleischer, 3/19/02]

...BUSH SUPPORTS THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY "So tonight, I ask the Congress to join me in creating a single, permanent department with an overriding and urgent mission: securing the homeland of America and protecting the American people." [President Bush, Address to the Nation, 6/6/02]

7. Weapons of Mass Destruction

BUSH SAYS WE FOUND THE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION..."We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories…for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them." [President Bush, Interview in Poland, 5/29/03]

...BUSH SAYS WE HAVEN'T FOUND WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION "David Kay has found the capacity to produce weapons. And when David Kay goes in and says we haven't found stockpiles yet, and there's theories as to where the weapons went. They could have been destroyed during the war. Saddam and his henchmen could have destroyed them as we entered into Iraq. They could be hidden. They could have been transported to another country, and we'll find out." [President Bush, Meet the Press, 2/7/04]

8. Free Trade

BUSH SUPPORTS FREE TRADE... "I believe strongly that if we promote trade, and when we promote trade, it will help workers on both sides of this issue." [President Bush in Peru, 3/23/02]

...BUSH SUPPORTS RESTRICTIONS ON TRADE "In a decision largely driven by his political advisers, President Bush set aside his free-trade principles last year and imposed heavy tariffs on imported steel to help out struggling mills in Pennsylvania and West Virginia, two states crucial for his reelection." [Washington Post, 9/19/03]

9. Osama Bin Laden

BUSH WANTS OSAMA DEAD OR ALIVE... "I want justice. And there's an old poster out West, I recall, that says, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive.'" [President Bush, on Osama Bin Laden, 09/17/01]

...BUSH DOESN'T CARE ABOUT OSAMA “I don't know where he is. You know, I just don't spend that much time on him… I truly am not that concerned about him.” [President Bush, Press Conference, 3/13/02]

10. The Environment

BUSH SUPPORTS MANDATORY CAPS ON CARBON DIOXIDE... "[If elected], Governor Bush will work to…establish mandatory reduction targets for emissions of four main pollutants: sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxide, mercury and carbon dioxide." [Bush Environmental Plan, 9/29/00]

...BUSH OPPOSES MANDATORY CAPS ON CARBON DIOXIDE "I do not believe, however, that the government should impose on power plants mandatory emissions reductions for carbon dioxide, which is not a 'pollutant' under the Clean Air Act." [President Bush, Letter to Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE), 3/13/03]

11. WMD Commission

BUSH RESISTS AN OUTSIDE INVESTIGATION ON WMD INTELLIGENCE FAILURE... "The White House immediately turned aside the calls from Kay and many Democrats for an immediate outside investigation, seeking to head off any new wide-ranging election-year inquiry that might go beyond reports already being assembled by congressional committees and the Central Intelligence Agency." [NY Times, 1/29/04]

...BUSH SUPPORTS AN OUTSIDE INVESTIGATION ON WMD INTELLIGENCE FAILURE "Today, by executive order, I am creating an independent commission, chaired by Governor and former Senator Chuck Robb, Judge Laurence Silberman, to look at American intelligence capabilities, especially our intelligence about weapons of mass destruction." [President Bush, 2/6/04]

12. Creation of the 9/11 Commission

BUSH OPPOSES CREATION OF INDEPENDENT 9/11 COMMISSION... "President Bush took a few minutes during his trip to Europe Thursday to voice his opposition to establishing a special commission to probe how the government dealt with terror warnings before Sept. 11." [CBS News, 5/23/02]

...BUSH SUPPORTS CREATION OF INDEPENDENT 9/11 COMMISSION "President Bush said today he now supports establishing an independent commission to investigate the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks." [ABC News, 09/20/02]

13. Time Extension for 9/11 Commission

BUSH OPPOSES TIME EXTENSION FOR 9/11 COMMISSION... "President Bush and House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) have decided to oppose granting more time to an independent commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks." [Washington Post, 1/19/04]

...BUSH SUPPORTS TIME EXTENSION FOR 9/11 COMMISSION "The White House announced Wednesday its support for a request from the commission investigating the September 11, 2001 attacks for more time to complete its work." [CNN, 2/4/04]

14. One Hour Limit for 9/11 Commission Testimony

BUSH LIMITS TESTIMONY IN FRONT OF 9/11 COMMISSION TO ONE HOUR... "President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney have placed strict limits on the private interviews they will grant to the federal commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks, saying that they will meet only with the panel's top two officials and that Mr. Bush will submit to only a single hour of questioning, commission members said Wednesday." [NY Times, 2/26/04]

...BUSH SETS NO TIMELIMIT FOR TESTIMONY "The president's going to answer all of the questions they want to raise. Nobody's watching the clock." [White House spokesman Scott McClellan, 3/10/04]

15. Gay Marriage

BUSH SAYS GAY MARRIAGE IS A STATE ISSUE... "The state can do what they want to do. Don't try to trap me in this state's issue like you're trying to get me into." [Gov. George W. Bush on Gay Marriage, Larry King Live, 2/15/00]

...BUSH SUPPORTS CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT BANNING GAY MARRIAGE "Today I call upon the Congress to promptly pass, and to send to the states for ratification, an amendment to our Constitution defining and protecting marriage as a union of man and woman as husband and wife." [President Bush, 2/24/04]

16. Nation Building

BUSH OPPOSES NATION BUILDING... "If we don't stop extending our troops all around the world in nation-building missions, then we're going to have a serious problem coming down the road." [Gov. George W. Bush, 10/3/00]

...BUSH SUPPORTS NATION BUILDING "We will be changing the regime of Iraq, for the good of the Iraqi people." [President Bush, 3/6/03]

17. Saddam/al Qaeda Link

BUSH SAYS IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEEN AL QAEDA AND SADDAM... "You can't distinguish between al Qaeda and Saddam when you talk about the war on terror." [President Bush, 9/25/02]

...BUSH SAYS SADDAM HAD NO ROLE IN AL QAEDA PLOT "We've had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved in Sept. 11." [President Bush, 9/17/03]

18. U.N. Resolution

BUSH VOWS TO HAVE A UN VOTE NO MATTER WHAT... "No matter what the whip count is, we're calling for the vote. We want to see people stand up and say what their opinion is about Saddam Hussein and the utility of the United Nations Security Council. And so, you bet. It's time for people to show their cards, to let the world know where they stand when it comes to Saddam." [President Bush 3/6/03]

...BUSH WITHDRAWS REQUEST FOR VOTE "At a National Security Council meeting convened at the White House at 8:55 a.m., Bush finalized the decision to withdraw the resolution from consideration and prepared to deliver an address to the nation that had already been written." [Washington Post, 3/18/03]

19. Involvement in the Palestinian Conflict

BUSH OPPOSES SUMMITS... "Well, we've tried summits in the past, as you may remember. It wasn't all that long ago where a summit was called and nothing happened, and as a result we had significant intifada in the area." [President Bush, 04/05/02]

...BUSH SUPPORTS SUMMITS "If a meeting advances progress toward two states living side by side in peace, I will strongly consider such a meeting. I'm committed to working toward peace in the Middle East." [President Bush, 5/23/03]

20. Campaign Finance

BUSH OPPOSES MCCAIN-FEINGOLD... "George W. Bush opposes McCain-Feingold...as an infringement on free expression." [Washington Post, 3/28/2000]

...BUSH SIGNS MCCAIN-FEINGOLD INTO LAW "[T]his bill improves the current system of financing for Federal campaigns, and therefore I have signed it into law." [President Bush, at the McCain-Feingold signing ceremony, 03/27/02]




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Randy in the Burgh
Posted on 04 Jul 2004 at 03:56

Hey, Kerry4President2004,

Interesting list. Did you see the above comments on what is the subject matter and the fact that I drifted into politics and then realized that that is best suited for another venue? I disagree with your assessment, for any President dealing with the real world needs to change with the times and as the facts change. I was referring to election campaign stands (and no, I don't want to debate those as well).

I suggest that you find a political website and go there with your list. I really don't want to debate it here. I just want to get back to helping the kids out. Enough said.

Randy


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Damon Borrelli
Posted on 07 Jul 2004 at 15:37

I just wanted to reiterate that my original intention here was to simply state my own personal feelings about this site, and how I feel that resources are better allocated at home rather than abroad regardless of how worse off any other nation is. That is not to say that I am an isolationist, once America is at 100%, I have no problem helping others, but only after we have reached that goal here at home.
I will say this though, as one who is still undecided as to where my vote will go in November, and has never voted Democrat in the past (and probably never will), Kerry4President2004 does seem to make some pretty valid points.


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Yvette
Posted on 07 Jul 2004 at 17:24

I know that we have problems in this country.
Where I see the problem is that over past 30 years we have dumped money into public school and it has become worse. So all that shows is that you can pump as much money into a system, but if the people in the system do not want to help themselves it will never work.
This site shows if you want to help those who what to help themselves the sky is the limit. Isn't wonderful that we have that freedom to choose.
America is a Giving Country and wants to help others have the same freedons.


God Bless America!!!!


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Keri
Posted on 07 Jul 2004 at 19:15

To Kerry4President2004,

A. If Kerry had been president these last 4 years, he would not have removed Saddam from power in Iraq because he wouldn't have the spine to do it. The people in that country would still be shoved alive into meat grinders...they'd still be feed alive to dobermans....they would still be used as a base upon which road pavement would be laid...pregnant wives would still be raped infront of their husbands until they aborted the baby and when the baby didn't abort, they would have their stomachs cut open and the baby's torn out...... I'm sorry, but the so called "torture" endured by a few real torturers is nothing compaired to the everyday tortures that the people in Iraq had to deal with. So if you can live with that on your conscience, then may God have mercy on your soul.

B. I hate the fact that I share a name with such a dispicable human being. Yah he cares about the little people...right. Is that why he married into a money? Twice....

Sorry for such a graphic post, but this was the reality of that country and there are just too many people in this country who either have no clue as to what was happening, or don't want to burden themselves with the facts of their pain. Time for a reality check.


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suzanne benoit
Posted on 17 Jul 2004 at 18:21

Well, I've heard some very interesting points of view from both sides. What I see today is the younger generation of our country are mostly educated by music videos & movies that glamourize sex, drugs, and violence and very little positive messages. It's getting way too out of hand. And it's sad to see the most negative, hateful artists are laughing all the way to the bank at the expense of our children's psychies without giving anything back to society. What kind of message does this send to our kids?

I blame the negative media and negative hollywood opportunists like Michael Moore. Do you think he is opening up his wallet to help someone in need? Do you think he is setting a good example by stealing a prominent author's title and refusing to give it back, while sending his one-sided point of view to the people as though it is all truth? And that is coming from a Democrat!!!!

Those who sit back and just complain need to put up or shut up. Spread some love rather than hate and maybe you will get a more positive result and feel better about yourself and the world in the process.

Maybe with role models like Gary SInise and Laura Hillenbrand who are showing their support, we can turn this country around and stop the growing terrorism that is emerging with our own young citizens by being a good example.


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Randy in the Burgh
Posted on 18 Jul 2004 at 05:38

I think it is about time we hear from the Iraqi's themselves...you can get on the Iraqi blogs by going to the website at the end of this message. I have heard the truth from some of them and this is some of it . This was posted two days ago by "Mesopotamian" and is heart-felt and should answer the hype that our media dishes out daily. Food for thought...

THE MESOPOTAMIAN
TO BRING ONE MORE IRAQI VOICE OF THE SILENT MAJORITY TO THE ATTENTION OF THE WORLD

Thursday, July 15, 2004
THE MERCIFUL
Hi,

Well, of course the Arabs are our brothers in so far as we are an Arabic speaking people. And of course we don’t wish them harm. And how many sacrifices have the Iraqis made for their sake? So, we wish them well, generally speaking. However, how we wish they could be less stupid, less cruel and more understanding. Also it would be nice if they could become less selfish, less hypocritical, less addicted to lying, treachery and jealousy. That would be nice. And perhaps they could show a little more concern about the murder of our people, the destruction of our livelihood, the sabotage of our national assets and infrastructure. It would be even nicer if they could actually stop perpetrating these rather unfriendly acts.

Also, somewhat it seems to us that cutting the heads of hostages is not a particularly good way of illustrating the Arab and Islamic nobility of spirit; especially if it is done in the name of Allah. I mean we are puzzled, because we thought that Allah was The Merciful; the Compassionate. But hard as we try to understand our brothers, we don’t seem to be able to comprehend the merciful nature of their actions. Perhaps we are not sufficiently well trained philosophically and too ignorant to appreciate the finer points of theology and the relationship between beheadings and various forms of murder to monotheism and Jihad in the name of The Merciful, the Compassionate.

Also we thought that our religion preached tolerance and kindness towards others, but it seems that our lamentable ignorance of theology led us to these erroneous misconceptions. But then this is your fault, venerable Sheikhs. You have not made sufficient effort to enlighten and train us in the true precepts and ways of piety. We have yet to appreciate that the true way of the Lord calls for drenching the earth with human blood. We seem to remember that the Gods of paganism craved for human sacrifice; “The Gods are thirsty – Les Dieux Ont Soif ”. Do we have sneaking suspicions that these ancient creeds have crept back into your system of belief?

Oh, yes; Oh brothers and venerable Sheiks with the correct size of beards, we are in dire need of explanation from you to save us from our utter disbelief and bewilderment concerning your ways. We are in state of shock that threatens the very foundation of our own faith.

Salaam



# posted by Alaa : 5:36 PM

For more of the truth and for a variety of views from within Iraq, go to http://www.healingiraq.blogspot.com

Randy in the Burgh, praying for those innocent people and their children over there in Iraq


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Damon Borrelli
Posted on 20 Jul 2004 at 16:40

Randy,
I'm quite puzzled by that last post. It seems heart-felt alright, "heartfeltly" sympathetic towards the many moslems who have perpetrated countless, vicious mortal assaults upon innocent people. I hope that when you are praying for the "innocent people in Iraq', you are including our solders who are dying every day during this senseless war.
I don't mean to be flippant, but all the hype and propaganda in the world is not going to change the fact that we are forcing this war on/for terrorism/independence upon a people who obviously didn't want it in the first place. Why does Iraqi independence have to come at the expense of the American people? Just like our independence came at our own expense and sacrafice.
Maybe its me. Maybe I'm just plain ignorant, but I apparently have lost sight of what it is that we are spending billions of dollars and sending our own solders off to die for.
Again, I'm not trying to be sarchastic, I just don't get it. When does it all end? What is it really for? And at what price?


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